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Dancing, Writing and Choreography

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This week I participated in a panel discussion at Sarah Lawrence College with Kathy Westwater and Rose Anne Thom on documenting and notating dance. To be honest I was terribly nervous though once I got started talking I really enjoyed it. Kathy Westwater moderated the discussion. Rose Anne Thom talked about Laban notation and software packages Labanwriter and Labanreader, developed at Ohio State University. I primarily talked about my thesis research and how it can be applied to the problems of notating and documenting dance. My research uses computer vision algorithms to represent the body as a set of chromatic particles. Once the body is reduced to numbers it becomes possible to automatically recognize different poses. Once these landmarks are identified the computer can generate a map of the movement space in the form of a dance graph.
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It was interesting to talk about my work in this context. It is in this space between dance and writing that we can get a deeper understanding about what choreography is. The word “choreography” literally means body (choreo) writing (graphy). The closely related term was coined in Thoinot Arbeau’s 1589 Orchesographie, one of the most famous dance manuals of the Renaissance. Arbeau was dance master, Jesuit priest and mathematician. Its cool to think that the project of symbolically representing dance was of interest to mathematicians over 400 years ago.

tonya said,

February 22, 2007 @ 4:35 am

It’s cute!

SanderO said,

February 22, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

As a non dancer I have always been curious about how choreographers create dances. Perhaps some of the dancers who have experience with that might describe it briefly… if they can.

Do they see the dance in the mind and then get the dancers to the studio, put the music on and say do A, B, C… to each dancer.. and then take a look at how is is… and then say.. no no do A, B, B, C, D and let me see that? The entire process is completely mysterious to me.

It is much easier to understand how dancers can learn a dance from seeing it performed. And then when you have almost an entire company on stage as you do in In The Upper Room… it boggles the mind how one sees all that and then can teach teach and coordinate each part.

Maybe someone can suggest a book about this. Can a dancer or a choreographer read dance notation and literally envision the dance the way one can read music? When a choreographer is working on a piece… do they work in notation or do the notation after they have “perfected” their choreography? Where is the music which goes with the notation… on the same page?

Help!!!!!!!

chromatic particles « diverse variations said,

February 23, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

blog, blog, blog

tony said,

March 2, 2007 @ 1:24 am

Sander…This is one of the great mysteries to me. How to make a dance? I don’t know. I always ask my graduate students this. Sometimes they think I am quizzing them. I am serious though…I don’t know how to make a dance. I find it really hard to remember movement. I can improvise and conceptualize but when it comes to repeating things I am no good. Some kinds of dancing are harder to repeat than others. I build computer programs to make dances. This is definitely not the best way but it is the way I have found for myself. I think everyones methodology is different. Some people start from a piece of music. Some start from a philosophy. You can start with an image or a geography or just a simple movement phrase. I don’t believe there is any correct way to make a dance. If there was a proper way to make a dance I don’t think I would find the process very interesting. This is a good question. Maybe we should devote a couple of posts to this very subject.
Thanks for the thoughts.

tonya said,

March 2, 2007 @ 4:24 am

Sander you should go to some discussions with choreographers. There was one tonight at BAM with Forsythe and it was fascinating. He talked about clouds! No, seriously, it was really very interesting hearing him talk about what inspired him to create his dance and how he worked with the dancers. David i think mentioned something about working with forsythe earlier…. As for books, I have Doris Humphrey’s The Art of Making Dances (though haven’t got around to reading it yet :) ), and I think Tharp has a book out now?…

beth said,

March 27, 2007 @ 9:10 pm

Hello my name is beth and I would like to know if is there any book or research about how to make a dance choreography. I am looking something very, very specific, something like step 1: do this…, step 2: do this… I’ll thank you for your answer.

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